Friday, October 8, 2010

Erik Scott Committed Suicide By Cop

Perhaps unintentionally, but his actions, whether deliberate or because of the massive amount of narcotics in his system, caused his own death. Despite the hushed tones of a massive conspiracy by Costco, the coroner, and the Sheriff's Office by the gun and conspiracy nuts at Confederate Yankee, Pajamas Media, and Vin Suprynowicz, Scott killed himself.

Lets start with some insight by responsible gun owners at Handguns Magazine on how a person legally carrying a firearm should interact with the police:

Over the past several years, the number of CCW holders among law abiding citizens including retired lawmen has grown to millions nationwide, and many states have reciprocity with other states that permits limited interstate concealed carry. With this fact and open carry laws, it is very likely that a local, municipal or state police officer will come in contact with a lawfully armed citizen. When this occurs, what do cops want or expect from these individuals?

Most officers I have spoken to want to know if a person in their presence is armed, regardless of whether they are sanctioned by the state or city of their residence. Their reactions to this information will obviously vary.

I was stopped by a state trooper for speeding one night after a long day of firearms instruction. I was under no obligation to inform him that I was armed, but when I did he jumped back a couple of feet. I kept my hands in plain view on top of the steering wheel and, remaining in my vehicle, we went from there. There was no further reference to the firearm, and he simply departed after he issued me my ticket.

Another deputy sheriff, whose state does not require such notification, advised he would thank the CCW holder for the courtesy, and if circumstances permitted might even ask to see the gun.
Forty-eight states issue concealed carry permits to private citizens; only Illinois and Wisconsin deprive their citizens of the right to carry. Of the 48 governments that allow citizens to carry concealed after specified conditions are met, only 10 (Alaska, Arkansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas) require armed CCW permit holders to advise law enforcement officers--officers who are acting in an official capacity--that they are CCW permit holders and that they are armed.

What discretionary actions the officer takes after being apprised of such a fact could range from temporary arrest and disarming to that of the appreciative deputy sheriff I mentioned above. I could not determine what the penalties were for not volunteering that information if for some reason you were subsequently discovered to be armed.

In the presence of an officer where state law requires you to ID yourself as a CCW holder and if you are armed I suggest you do the following:

• Wait until there is a lull in the situation, so the officer is not distracted from the task at hand.
• Wait until the officer is facing you.
• Make eye contact.
• Keep your hands in plain view.
• Inform the officer and offer to show him your credential.
• Tell him where the credential is on your person.
• With the officer's consent, retrieve your credential.
• If the officer directs you to surrender your weapon and/or submit to temporary detention, protest but cooperate fully.
And, importantly, you will loose any confrontation with a police officer, so:

• After the incident, determine if you have any legal remedies.

And, for the wannabee gunfighters and conspiracy nuts Bob Owens and Vin Suprynowicz who think that gun owners should be shooting it out with cops while toking their weed and shooting junk:

• Don't draw down on a cop who is pointing his gun at you.
And, better yet, don't do drugs and carry a gun. Drugs interfere with your judgement and the only one six feet under after that event will be you. Vin and Bob are giving you armchair advice; They won't have your back either in the gunfight or, if you survive, with money for a good lawyer either.
Earlier testimony by doctors who treated Scott painted the 38-year-old medical device salesman as a likely prescription drug addict who battled long-term depression, high stress and chronic pain. When he died, Scott had potentially fatal levels of the painkiller morphine and the anti-anxiety drug Xanax in his system, according to a toxicology report...
Olson testified that Scott had potentially lethal levels of prescription drugs in his system at the time of his death. The morphine in his system, 1,800 nanograms per milliliter, was more than four times enough to kill most people, and the level of Xanax, 390 nanograms per milliliter, was at the top of the lethal range. Because Scott was walking around partaking in daily activities, he probably had developed a tolerance to the drugs, though they could have made him drowsy, lethargic and clumsy, she said.

Dr. Shari Klein said she started treating Scott in 2008, but as the months passed she saw less and less of him because he couldn't afford her services. She said Scott told her he had used a variety of street drugs, including cocaine, ecstasy and anabolic steroids in the past. He also battled depression and told her that depression, along with substance abuse, were part of his family history.

In the summer of 2009, Scott e-mailed Klein a request for the prescription hydrocodone, a powerful narcotic painkiller that he thought would help his depression.

"I really don't want to deal with one of those scumbag drug-pushing pain doctors," he wrote, and suggested she use his chronic elbow and knee pain to justify the prescription.

She refused.

"I just wanted to get him help," she said.

She said she referred him for a psychological evaluation, but he couldn't afford it.
That is his physician testifying. The wingnut brigade might try and claim that she is bought off by Costco, intimidated by rogue cops or whatever. But Scott made some really bad decisions. Probably starting with getting addicted to pain killers. Note that I predicted the steroid use. Roid rage can be a killer.
Erik Scott is dead also because he, under the influence of drugs and carrying a weapon, decided to shoot it out with three cops. Not a good decision.
A Costco employee had called police because Scott, who had a concealed-weapons permit, was carrying a gun and acting erratically, police said. The store was evacuated as officers responded, sending hundreds of shoppers and employees spilling into the parking lot as the fatal confrontation unfolded.

Kullberg said she was one of the last to leave the store, and emerged in time to hear the officer's commands and to see Scott staring at the officer.

"He wasn't getting on the ground," Kullberg testified before the jury and an audience that included Scott friends and relatives wearing buttons bearing a smiling photo of the West Point graduate.

Kullberg said she watched as Scott pulled a gun from his waistband and "aimed it straight at the officer," who shot him.
Of course, the conspiracy nuts will say that Kullberg lied to keep her job and the Scott family lawyer implies. Of course, he is looking to make alot of money out of this conspiracy.
"It's funny, because she looked nervous to me," he said. "The Costco lawyer was sitting in the courtroom."

He stopped short of calling her a liar.

"It's difficult to explain why she testified this way," said Goodman, who twice objected during the proceedings and was twice warned to remain seated and quiet. "
Of course our conspiracy nuts even have magic bullets, just like the Kennedy conspirators. Just as Oswald could never have as good a shot as to kill Kennedy, so the magic bullets from the Las Vegas Metro Police Department are just too good to be believed:
Officers across the country involved in shootings have an average hit rate of only about 25% of rounds fired, which means that some 75% of the officer’s rounds flew off in directions other than those intended by the officers. Consider that most officer involved shootings take place at shockingly short ranges. The Scott shooting also took place at close range, but the hit rate was 100% and every bullet remained in Scott’s body. There were no misses or complete penetrations acknowledged by the Police or Medical Examiner. This is not impossible, but is certainly unusual, so unusual that the police cooked up an outlandish tale to try to explain that the public was never in danger. Were more than seven rounds fired, and if so, where did they end up? There is no way to know at the moment.
Wow, magic missing bullets that failed to kill anyone else in the crowd. If the shooting was so dangerous to the public then the magic missing bullets must have killed someone. Perhaps LVMPD is hiding bodies at Area 51.
One should be quite happy that LVMPD police officers are better than average shots. Sounds like they should be commended, not slandered.
But, in the end, Erik Scott is dead because he challenged three police officers to a gun fight. A violation of the Las Vegas Corollary to the Chicago Rules: If they bring one man with a gun to a gunfight, you bring three men with guns to the gunfight.
Or better yet, follow the basic gun safety rules that some apparently have not learned: Don't use guns under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Does that go for drunk and drugged up cops too?

You act as if metro are the good guys! I can tell you they are not! Metro in the biggest street gang in the city, and do what they want. Perhaps they shot him rightfully, perhaps he was on small amounts of drugs.
But I have first hand knowledge on many ongoing cases where cops and I mean most here, drink till they cant walk and climb behind the wheel, with their gun still strapped to them, and drive home. Many to beat or abuse their wives.
Conspiracy theory?? I think not! metro in vegas needs to be gutted, and start over! they are trigger happy, they are stealing peoples money, cars, thru dogs that alert on cue! They are the Gangsters! And believe me, no one is safe, and it will only get worse.